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Post by enquirer on Dec 19, 2005 8:17:15 GMT 3
A small question regarding Kibaki, ODM & chest thumpingPeople like Kichwa Mbaya and O. Oloo are now shouting that Kibaki is basically defeated and all that is left to do is coronate Raila Let us remember that Kichwa Mbaya, who transformed himself from 2%, never gave Kibaki a chance. Right after Kibaki was sworn in, Kichwa Mbaya and other Raila fanatics began an intense effort to discredit everything about Kibaki (good or bad) because their man was not made Prime Minister. Let us also remember that these same hypocrites were the ones who were scared to death of a constitutional referendum. They were 100% against it. Then when they got lucky and won, they suddenly blew its importance out of proportion and began demanding that Kibaki step down. All this was their right but it doesn't mean they are right. They need to provide proof that Kenyans wanted Kibaki to step down when they voted No in the referendum. It is no secret that many Luos crave the presidency with a fanaticism that scares even non-Kikuyus. This is because they have been so close to the prize (or bride, as their God calls it) but have always miscalculated. So after 42 years they are basically going crazy from the wait. But the Kenyan presidency should be an expensive prize. It should not be something that people can be tricked into giving away so easily. Luos have all the right to want the presidency but they MUST earn it like any other Kenyans. In my view, Luhyas have a stronger chance to replace Kibaki when he is finally done than Luos. To think, like Raila and his so-called ODM buddies thought, that they could simply hold a number of rallies around the country and force Kibaki out of State House was simply naive. Raila must fight for the presidency fair and square! The first thing he needs to do is try a vote of no confidence. If he cannot succeed on that method than he needs to shut up for now. He and Kalonzo are beginning to look like cry babies. By the way, on Saturday Raila said that he took back his "Kibaki Tosha" declaration. He claimed that he did not subject Kibaki to a rigorous test to see whether he was popular and worth being president. That was his right. However, will Raila reject Moi's Kasarani declaration that Raila was the right person to be Kanu Secretary General? After all, was Raila subjected to a secret ballot? Wasn't Saitoti and Kamotho ready to do battle with Raila but Moi intervened and declared Raila the winner by acclamation? How democratic was that? Why does Raila nor his supporters bring this embarrassing episode to our attention? Why must we force it from them? Raila is the worst hypocrite that is currently operating under the so-called ODM group. My predictions: 1. Kalonzo and Raila are only together for now. At some point they will part ways because of mutual suspicion. 2. Even if Kibaki is not re-elected in 2007, Raila will not see State House. 3. There will come a time when Raila will regret why he was so mean to Kibaki. I strongly believe that when another person occupies State House, after Kibaki, he or she will be a lot rougher with Raila. We do not fear Raila nor his fanatics and we will ALWAYS expose his hypocrisy! www.eastandard.net/archives/sunday/hm_news/news.php?articleid=33842&date=18/12/2005
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Post by enquirer on Dec 19, 2005 8:36:38 GMT 3
A small question regarding Raila, cabinet appointments & amazing hypocrisyRaila's fanatical Luo supporters thought that they would overthrow Kibaki's government after the referendum. They hugged Njonjo at a public rally. The crowd, which anyone can attract in Nairobi, excited Raila and made him think that the whole country wanted Kibaki out (wishful thinking). This was his right. Luos on RCB, unable to control their excitement (the presidency was within Raila's reach, they thought) came to RCB and called Kikuyus "jiggers" over and over. This was their right. As we waited for the new cabinet to be announced, people like Kajwang and Kichwa Mbaya were going hysterical as they tried to force every Kenyan to toe Raila's line, ati Kibaki must go. They even tried to intimidate anyone who thought of accepting a cabinet post from Kibaki. They shouted that if Kibaki wanted to appoint an ODM member, he had to talk to ODM's "structure" (read Raila). However, there was an outcry and it came from a surprising corner: Joe Khamisi! So Raila and Kajwang had to back down from forcing the Raila line or they would have faced an embarrassing revolt. They then started saying that anyone was free to negotiate with Kibaki but would be punished by the electorate. Then the new cabinet was announced. Raila, Kalonzo, Anyang', Balala and others were out! Good riddance! Rather than return to Parliament as a backbencher and try to keep the government on its toes, like a good Opposition member, Raila and his fanatics are now trying to demonise the politicians who accepted cabinet posts, even BEFORE they have started their work! This is VERY hypocritical and ordinary Kenyans are not going to be amused. Let us simply recall when Raila himself ditched the Opposition and joined the discredited government of Moi, which was much worse than Kibaki's. In the process, he forced his entire Luo tribe to follow him (he was going to get the "bride," yaani the Kanu presidential nomination, he thought). Does Raila and his fanatics think we have forgotten this: www.nationaudio.com/News/DailyNation/07072001/Comment/Comment17.html We will ALWAYS expose Raila's hypocrisy! Raila and his fanatics must be very angry when they read the article below: === Daily Nation
NEWS
Kibaki gives Kombo and Ngilu four new ministers Story by NATION Team Publication Date: 12/14/2005
President Kibaki last night bowed to the demands of two key party leaders – and gave them four new Cabinet posts.
Ford Kenya, led by Mr Musikari Kombo scooped three of the four ministries with Mrs Charity Ngilu's National Party of Kenya getting one.
The deal means that both Mr Kombo and Mrs Ngilu will now take up the Cabinet positions they were offered in Mr Kibaki's new administration, but refused as bargaining chips against new jobs for their party faithful.
In sharing out the jobs, the President created three new ministries to accommodate the demands by the two parties: Defence, split off from Internal Security and Defence, Science and Technology hived off from Education, and Housing, taken from Lands and Housing..
The new ministers, plus five new assistant ministers from both parties will be sworn in today, together with the group of ministers who missed a previous ceremony last Friday.
In addition to the Ford-K and NPK ministers, Kiambaa MP Njenga Karume – a confidant of the President – was named as new minister of Defence, paving way for Ford-K's John Munyes to take over Mr Karume's Special Programmes.
Education will now stand alone under existing minister George Saitoti while Science and Technology will be headed by Dr Noah Wekesa, a Ford-K MP who had rejected an appointment as an assistant minister.
Mr Soita dungandaThe new ministry of Housing will be headed by Malava MP Soita dunganda who had earlier rejected an appointment as an assistant minister, with Lands staying with existing minister Amos Kimunya.
Professor Kivutha Kibwana, of the National Party of Kenya (NPK) who had also rejected the job of assistant minister is now in the Cabinet as the new minister for the Environment. The post was originally offered to Ndhiwa MP Orwa Ojodeh who declined to accept it.
Ikolomani MP Bonny Khalwale whose car was burnt to a shell in Kakamega during campaigns leading to the November 21 referendum was appointed as an assistant minister for the East African Community.
The new assistant ministers are Ms Cecily Mbarire of NPK (Youth Affairs), Dr Enock Kibunguchy of Ford-K (Health), Ms Adelina Mwau of NPK (Manpower Development) and Mr Raphael Wanjala of Ford-K (Water Resource Management).
Mr Kombo said he said he was happy with the new appointments. He said: "I went into the forest to hunt and I came back with prize."
And he added: "I am happy. That is the reason we went into negotiations we will now move on."
He described the split in the ministries of Lands and Housing and Internal Security and Defence as the right thing to do.
Earlier in the day, both Ford-K and the NPK had complained they were still waiting for President Kibaki to meet their parties' demands.
Both Mr Kombo, chairman of Ford-Kenya, and Mrs Ngilu who heads the NPK, had refused to join the Cabinet unless extra positions were found for their parties' MPs.
They both claimed to have reached a deal with Mr Kibaki after marathon talks lasting from Friday to Sunday... but by yesterday afternoon there was still no word from State House confirming the agreement.
Ford-Kenya MPs will not take up their ministerial positions until the President gives the party its promised additional appointments, Mr Kombo said yesterday.
And nominated MP Cecily Mbarire of the NPK said they too were awaiting word from State House following their weekend negotiations.
"We expect them to contact us first before going public," she said.
The Ford-K chairman, Mr Kombo emerged from a meeting and said the party was still waiting for the President to act on their demands.
He declared: "I haven't heard anything. How do you swear before you have been there?"
Highly placed sources in the Government indicated that the President was under increasing pressure not to yield to their demands, although any protests appeared to have been overtaken by events.
The argument was that he would be setting a bad precedent by responding to party leaders instead of choosing his administration purely on merit, they said.
The sources also disclosed that Kabete MP Paul Muite was summoned to State House yesterday afternoon.
Mr Muite, the Safina party leader and a staunch ally of the Kibaki government, was widely expected to have been included in the new Cabinet.
It was understood he met President Kibaki for more than one hour. The Kabete MP could not be reached after the meeting.
Ford Kenya also said over the weekend it wanted the new appointments to include three additional permanent secretaries. Currently, the party has four PSs.
In total, the party wanted seven PSs, and a third of all new appointments in the provincial administration, parastatals and diplomatic missions.
Ford Kenya argued that since the President had not completed his reshuffle in the civil service and parastatals, it should get a third of the new posts.
Mrs Ngilu, it is understood, was assured that Prof Kibwana, who refused an appointment as an assistant minister could be made a full minister while Ms Mbarire would become an assistant minister... assurances that have been kept.
The President has power in the Constitution to create the number of ministries he deems fit.
Mr Munyes who is serving his second term in parliament becomes the first MP from Turkana District to be elevated to full Cabinet minister. He is the Ford-K Secretary General.
Ford Kenya now has seven Cabinet ministers even though Trade and Industry Minister Mukhisa Kituyi and Labour Minister Newton Kulundu are considered "rebels" by the party.
Dr Wekesa said: "This is a big honour for the President to remember us to continue helping the country."
The Kwanza MP said Kenyans know what Ford Kenya had done to assist the Government since the 2002 General Election.
Said he: "The party has been a significant shareholder of National Rainbow Coalition."
He dedicated his position to the people of Kwanza constituency who voted whole heartedly for Narc.
Dr Wekesa added: "We will serve the Government because we believe Ford Kenya has a major role to play."
He said the party will put politics aside and work for Kenyans.
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Post by enquirer on Dec 19, 2005 8:40:46 GMT 3
A small question to Kombo/Ngilu Haters
Kombo/Ngilu haters are mad at them for demanding ministerial and other posts from kibaki.
That is their right.
However, it is the same people who have been demanding the implementation of the MOU who are now calling for Kombo/Ngilus heads.
What was the MOU about?
Was it about how to help create 500k jobs? or About a new constitution? or about economic growth?
NOPE nope NO!
It was about greed. It was about the political class sharing among themselves positions with total disregard of merit.
If implementation of MOU was okay, then Ngilu & Kombo did the right thing.
If you now think it is not, then its got to be that animal again.
HYPOCRISY!
Will we continue exposing it whenever it raises its ugly head?
You bet.
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Post by Enquirer on Dec 21, 2005 21:45:29 GMT 3
A small question regarding Steadman poll, Raila, & ODM hysteria From: _ - Wed, Dec 21, 12:26 PM When the idea of holding a referendum was first introduced, Raila fanatics were 100% against it. They thought that they might lose. They also stated that MKM would rig it. This was their right. Then the Steadman poll came out and they were surprised to see that the Oranges were ahead. Then the referendum was held and they miraculously won. From so-called intellectuals like Anyang' Nyongo to small-time leftists like O.Oloo to Internet propagandists like Kichwa Mbaya, they suddenly ran naked in the streets and were in a frenzy. Many came to RCB to denounce Kikuyus as "jiggers." Many now DEMANDED that Kibaki step down and have ODM (read Raila) coronated as the new President of Kenya. Their arrogance was AMAZING! Why do Raila's supporters always behave this way? Why? Does the fact that you can draw a crowd in a Nairobi rally mean that you are now the most popular "movement" around the country? Why this obsession of trying to take shortcuts to power? Many of us here tried to point out that the referendum was about ONE issue: whether or not to support the Wako Draft. But they did not want to hear this as their God demanded "snap elections." There were also ambitious plans to make a big tour around the country where the so-called ODM would thank those who voted NO. But events proved to not go according to plan. There was the embarrassing Khamisi revolt within ODM. Then there was the sense that the public was not quite demanding that the Kibaki government step down. Kibaki should not gloat. He and his cabinet still have A LOT of work ahead. But the latest Steadman poll clearly shows that the Kenyan people are more mature than the Raila/ODM fanatics imagined. It is basically a loud slap on Raila's excited face! By the way, this poll, which shows Musyoka to be gaining in popularity and much more popular than Raila, is going to be the main source of bitter rivalry between Musyoka and Raila down the line. Mark my words. Now these fanatics, who had come to believe their own propaganda, simply cannot imagine that Kenyans want a better country BUT not according to the Raila script. Today I am very proud of the political maturity of Kenyans. Thank God Kenyans live in a free country that allows them to freely express their views. Can you see why Castro (Raila and O.Oloo's hero) NEVER allows opinion polls? We will ALWAYS expose Raila's hypocrisy! www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=33956
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Post by Enquirer on Dec 29, 2005 7:00:21 GMT 3
A small question regarding Raila, Musyoka, excitement & ODM name From: _ - Wed, Dec 28, 10:47 PM Again, I cannot stop laughing. The post-referendum period is a time I will never forget. Raila fanatics had always been against a constitutional referendum. They were scared to death that they might lose or that it might get rigged by the so-called Mount Kenya Mafia. But the referendum was held. When it turned out that the NO vote had won, Raila fanatics (mainly Luos) quicky emerged from their rat holes and claimed that they had known all along that they would win (a big fat lie). What was most interesting to watch is how people like Miguna Miguna, Kichwa Mbaya, Man Tinga, O.Oloo all came out to celebrate wildly and denounce Kikuyus in their own ways. The insult that most of them liked was "jigger." You could sense their wild joy as they got a chance to kick Kikuyus while Kikuyus were down. It was a repeat of the same excitement after the S.M. Otieno case. This was their right. However, there was a MAJOR hypocrisy in Luos insulting Kikuyus. If the situation had been reverse, in other words if Raila was President and the referendum had been about reducing Raila's powers as President, Luos would have voted in the exact same way as Kikuyus voted. That is the reality of Kenyan politics. Recall when Raila ditched the Opposition and decided to merge his Ndp with Kanu. Luos supported him to a man. I remember Luos running to RCB to say that this was a brilliant "tactical" move by Raila. Then there was the helicopter ride that Moi allowed Raila. Who can forget that? Bulls were slaughtered in Kisumu! Raila was really going to capture the "bride," as he described the presidency. What is now very funny is that when Raila and Musyoka were going crazy trying to distort the results of the referendum and shouting that Kibaki should step down, they completely forgot to register the ODM name. Kenya is a country that has a lot of enterprising people. Smart Kenyans moved faster than Raila and Musyoka and registered the ODM name. People like O.Oloo were crying that the people who registered the ODM name were just like the clones on RCB. This is a lie! The clones on RCB are just pranksters. The people who registered the ODM name are shrewd Kenyans. Why are Raila, Musyoka and other ODM politicians now blaming the Registrar of Societies for losing the ODM name? Why are they trying to blame the government when it was them who, being drunk from excitement, forgot to register the ODM name? Stop harrassing the Registrar of Societies! Admit that your excitement was similar to that of Gor Mahia fans. Yaani, totally out of control. Even in America shrewd people have been paid good money for having registered popular websites. We will always expose ODM hypocrisy! www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=64256
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Post by swali on Jan 17, 2006 8:23:55 GMT 3
Since the referendum we have seen some people really get carried away by the so-called ODM. Some even thought that all that remained to be done was for Kibaki to step down and power immediately handed over to Raila. This was their right. However, things are not so simple. Now we have seen that the so-called strong unity that people like O.Oloo and Kichwa Mbaya were shouting about was an exaggeration. Just look at the number of people within ODM who want to be president. Right now all this is being explained away as being "healthy democracy" and that when a leader is chosen everyone in ODM will rally behind him. I couldn't help thinking of a certain possibility. What if Raila wins the LDP nomination to run for president and he starts demanding everyone within ODM to rally behind him? What if Moi tells his Kalenjin not to rally behind Raila? What if Moi insists that the Kalenjin should support Kenyatta? Who will the Kalenjin back? www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=2&newsid=65338
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Post by Enquirer on Jan 24, 2006 7:58:22 GMT 3
A small question regarding Githongo, Kichwa Mbaya & massive hypocrisy From: _ - Sun, Jan 22, 10:48 AM John Githongo is a Kikuyu. Kibaki is a Kikuyu. Githongo has decided to expose all about corruption within Kibaki's inner circle. This is an example of a TRUE Kenyan hero! Kichwa Mbaya has always cried and told us that Kibaki should be removed from power. First his reason was the MoU. Then it was the referendum. Now it is because of Githongo's report. This is Kichwa Mbaya's right. However, where was Kichwa Mbaya when Raila joined Moi who stole MORE than Kibaki's inner circle. How much money did the Kenya government lose through Anglo Leasing? How much money did the Kenya government lose by the time Raila decided to merge with Moi? Yet Raila fanatics like Kichwa Mbaya said nothing at the time because to them Raila does nothing wrong. Kibaki deserves whatever comes to him regarding Githongo's report. But to think, as Kichwa Mbaya does, that the solution is having Raila in State House is a joke. If Kibaki is to be replaced it will have to be by someone who is truly clean otherwise we will continue getting corruption reports and getting shocked. The solution is NOT Raila! We will always expose Kichwa Mbaya's hypocrisy (as well as that of other Raila fanatics)! kenya.rcbowen.com/talk/index.cgi?action=Article&article=60954&start=1&limit=50
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Post by Enquirer on Jan 24, 2006 7:59:56 GMT 3
small question regarding Raila as Kenya's "saviour" From: _ - Mon, Jan 23, 11:46 PM Let me start by stating clearly that I do not excuse Kibaki regarding Anglo Leasing. Like I've said before, he deserves whatever he gets. Having said this, Raila fanatics like Kichwa Mbaya have found yet a new thing to use in promoting their God. It is called Anglo Leasing. We are now being commanded to get very angry at Kibaki over this latest corruption scandal. Then the real message is delivered to us: Only a radical like Raila can clean up the mess. Kalonzo is now expected to play a supporting role to Raila (the poll showing Kalonzo to be much more popular than Raila is now never mentioned by Raila fanatics. They believe that we will forget it). This is their right. However, we cannot forget other small things as well. Raila excused Moi from Goldenberg which cost Kenya MUCH more than Anglo Leasing (remember that some of the money from Anglo Leasing was sent back). By supporting Moi, after Goldenberg was known to all, Raila WAS excusing Moi. He did not have to say it. His actions spoke larger than words, as they say. Raila even helped Moi fight off a vote of no confidence in Parliament! At the time, Transparency International was still in existence in Kenya and issuing all kinds of reports on Moi's corruption. But fanatics like Kichwa Mbaya, drunk from celebrating the cheap helicopter ride that Moi allowed Raila, had NO time for Transparency International. In fact, it was viewed as a "Kikuyu thing". Even many NGOs during Moi's time would often get labelled Kikuyu organisations by Raila fanatics. After the MoU failed to get Raila into power by the backdoor, it was the referendum. With the referendum, Raila fanatics had reason to be excited. They just happened to be on the winning side for once. They squeezed everything they could into that victory. They basically saw it as Raila's chance to dictate to Kenya what he wanted. ODM got blown out of proportion. It was now supposed to be the real power in the country. Everyone had to deal with the "ODM structure" (Raila). Then there was the small rebellion from Joe Khamisi. They tried to downplay it but the fact was that ODM was like any other Kenyan party. In other words, it too had power struggles. We eventually saw Kalonzo, Raila and Ruto declare that they would run for president. This greatly embarrassed Raila fanatics but they hid under the excuse that it was "democracy in action." Imagine how Kalonzo must have felt after losing a cabinet job only to realise that the LDP presidential nomination would not be given to him automatically. He had to fight it out with Raila and even maybe Mudavadi! Some in the Coast even want a Muslim presidential candidate. Now people like Kichwa Mbaya claim that Raila is going to be the messiah who will take us away from the miseries such as Anglo Leasing. This is the same Raila of "ata mkia ni nyama"! Would Raila and Kajwang, once in power, make Kenya a better country? Considering that Raila has had to wait for so many years to get to State House, if he ever got in he would do ANYTHING in his power to remain there forever. Any Luo who tried to expose Raila's corruption, the way Githongo has done with Kibaki, would be lynched by Raila's goons. Just look at how so-called educated Luos on RCB reacted to Tuju's independent position on the referendum. They could have killed him if they had the chance! In fact, he would make Moi look like a joke. Raila is NOT the solution! kenya.rcbowen.com/talk/index.cgi?action=Article&article=61665&start=1&limit=50 news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1383401.stm
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Post by Enquirer on Jan 25, 2006 8:37:54 GMT 3
A small question regarding Kibaki, Anglo Leasing & corrupt aides From: _ - Tue, Jan 24, 11:04 PM It is now clear that certain members of Kibaki's inner team were either involved in the Anglo Leasing scandal or its cover-up. John Githongo has done a GREAT service to Kenya. Think of what Githongo has done. Despite being a Kikuyu like Kibaki, he has gone ahead to expose corruption in Kibaki's government. Could a Luo have done such a thing if Raila was president? Would Raila fanatics have allowed their God to be exposed by a fellow Luo? If postings on RCB are anything to go by, the answer is a resounding NO! Now we must ask Kibaki whether he has the courage to do the right thing. Kibaki, can you fire Moody Awori, Kiraitu Murungi, Chris Murungaru, Alfred Gitonga, and others who were invloved in Anglo Leasing? You need to do this if you have any hopes of being re-elected in 2007. I say this as a strong supporter of your government. There is no way around this. You need to fire these people as soon as possible! Please do what is necessary! www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=2&newsid=65865
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Post by Enquirer on Feb 13, 2006 6:57:14 GMT 3
A small question regarding Anglo Leasing, Raila fanatics & GithongoMany Kenyans have for a long time wanted ALL corruption to be stopped and the culprits punished. Kenyans work very hard for their money and do not appreciate their tax money being looted. This is why Anglo Leasing and Goldenberg scandals have to be investigated fully and everyone found to have been guilty kicked out of the government and forced to face the law. This applies no matter whether the person is Moody Awori, Kiraitu Murungi, Chris Murungaru or even Mwai Kibaki himself. However, one of the most frustrating things is to see Raila fanatics trying to steal credit for the current Anglo Leasing developments. Pleeeeze, how desperate can they be??? What we know about Anglo Leasing now has to do with John Githongo's personal courage! It has NOTHING to do with Raila Odinga. At such an important moment in Kenya to have people trying to manipulate it in order to promote the Luo Nyanza Political God for president, is not only highly insensitive, but it actually means that these people are NOT interested in helping Kenya but are instead fanatically driven to support their tribal king. What we know right now about Anglo Leasing owes nothing to Railaism. In fact, Railaism is the exact opposite of what Githongo is doing. Railaism says that you should support your tribal king, no matter what. If you want evidence of Railaism, you simply have to recall how so-called educated Luos responded to Raphael Tuju's support of the YES vote during the recent referendum. Luos were ready to lynch Tuju! What if Tuju had tapes of Raila's corruption during the LDP nomination process??? I'm scared to think of what Luos would have done! If you want evidence of Railaism, you simply have to recall how many Luos, including so-called intellectuals like Professor Atieno Odhiambo, supported Raila when he merged his NDP with Kanu in 2002, 10 years AFTER Kenya's biggest scandal (Goldenberg) was first made public! So it amazing to see some opportunistic Luos trying to steal credit from Githongo. We will always expose the hypocrisy of Raila and his fanatical followers! kenya.rcbowen.com/talk/index.cgi?action=Article&article=69493&start=1&limit=50
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Post by Enquirer on Apr 9, 2006 8:20:03 GMT 3
A small question regarding Raila, Kalonzo, "people's voice" & hypocrisyFrom: _ - Sat, Apr 08, 8:32 AM Before the referendum, Raila fanatics kept shouting at us that the voice of the people is the voice of God. This is what their God had said so they kept repeating it. The message was that those who were supporting the draft constitution were wasting their time. In fact, Raila fanatics were originally dead set against the referendum because they were not sure they would win. Then when the Steadman poll showed that the No vote was ahead, they started shouting that the people were speaking and they were against the draft. God was against the draft! That was their right. However, we recently had yet another poll which showed that Kalonzo Musyoka was still the most popular presidential candidate. This was VERY bad news for Raila fanatics. They have always been in denial when it comes to anything that shows Raila not to be seen as a God outside Luo Nyanza and Kibera. Now you are no longer hearing that the "voice of the people is the voice of God, blah, blah, blah. Instead, Raila fanatics are now shouting that we need to let the delegates decide who will be the LDP presidential candidate. This is because the delegates in LDP are known to be Raila's people. This is amazing hypocrisy! Do you remember when Raila was made Kanu's secretary general? Was it by the delegates voting of by "acclamation"? Do you recall Raila fanatics (even in RCB) complaining that the delegates had not spoken? Instead Raila fanatics were excited as hell that Raila had clinched the secretary general job in Kanu. It did not matter how he got it. The point was he now had the job and was one step closer to the "bride" (presidency). So now Raila fanatics have suddenly become big believers of the delegates system of voting simply because it is what works well for their God at THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT. Where were they during the Kanu election for secretary general? We will ALWAYS expose the hypocrisy of Raila and his fanatics! www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143950686
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Post by sq on May 21, 2006 8:06:09 GMT 3
A small question regarding Raila, Uhuru, Moi & ODM From: _ - Sat, May 20, 11:46 PM Raila Odinga is a man who claims to be very important because ati without his support you cannot become president. He and his supporters have always shouted that it was them who put Kibaki in State House. When ODM won the referendum, Raila and his supporters went crazy with joy. Kiuks on RCB were called "jiggers." People like Onyango Oloo, Kichwa Mbaya, and Man Tinga virtually demanded that Kibaki step down and hand the State House keys to Raila. Then they shouted for snap elections! Raila and his supporters tried to keep up the pressure on Kibaki. They even went as far as hugging Charles Njonjo in public. We kept being told that ODM was a MAJOR power. Kalonzo Musyoka and Raila were baptised "ODM superstars" by Oloo. All this was their right. Raila and his friends got fired from the cabinet and nothing happened. However, now Moi has re-entered Kanu politics. He is campaigning for Kanu in the upcoming by-elections necessitated by the Marsabit plane crash. This is Moi's right! But why is Raila suddenly scared that Moi is campaining? Isn't ODM supposed to be strong enough to counter Moi? Isn't ODM the voice of the people? Isn't the voice of the people the voice of God, as Raila shouted at us? The fact is Moi and Uhuru do not want to win with Raila. They know that any victory with Raila will be cursed with 24/7 arguments about MoU this, Mou that. No work will ever get done as Raila and his goons like Otieno Kajwang shout at you that it was them who got you in power. Now most politicians have recognised the disadvantages of campaigning on the same side with Raila. We in NAK found this out the hard way and are now sending a warning to others. Why is Raila running scared, because former president Moi has chosen to exercise his freedom of expression and participate in national politics? We will always expose the disadvantages of Raila as a campaign "team member"! www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143952782
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Post by Ed on Oct 24, 2006 1:04:46 GMT 3
A small question regarding Kibaki, Njonjo & Raila fanatics From: _ - Mon, Oct 23, 8:52 AM Raila fanatics are always excited when anything seems to help their God, Raila. When Charles Njonjo joined an ODM rally and hugged Raila and others, after Kibaki lost the referendum, Raila fanatics like Kichwa Mbaya were extremely excited. Raila fanatics ran to RCB to give Kibaki orders. They ordered him to resign. They ordered him to re-open Parliament so that they could teach him a lesson. They ordered him to hold a snap election. All this was their right. However, the hypocrisy of Raila fanatics is simply mind boggling. Now Njonjo has started a group to try to get Kikuyus to support ODM (ati Central Province Initiative forum!). Of course, Raila fanatics like Kichwa Mbaya have wasted no time to run to RCB to lecture us ati how important it is to listen to Njonjo. First of all, Raila fanatics and Raila himself have never had any love for Njonjo in the past. So this new found "love" is simply their typical hypocrisy which just makes them seem very desperate to get Raila into State House (under any means necessary). But the most amazing hypocrisy is why Raila fanatics expect Kikuyus to listen to Njonjo WHEN they themselves HATE Raphael Tuju with a passion that is shocking. Do you recall the anti-Tuju postings from the likes of Kichwa Mbaya? They practically lynched Tuju for daring to have his own opinion different from Raila. Why do Raila fanatics love Njonjo, when he disagrees with Kibaki, but HATE Tuju, when he disagrees with Raila? Why is it only democratic when people agree with Raila and tribalistic when people disagree with him??? Could this be that usual thing called HYPOCRISY? We shall ALWAYS expose the hypocrisy of Raila and his fanatics! kenya.rcbowen.com/talk/index.cgi?action=Article&article=163103&start=1&limit=50 www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143959992
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Post by Ed on Nov 30, 2006 9:24:42 GMT 3
Some of us have been coming to RCB for a very long time. It is really amazing to watch Kenyan politicians. I simply cannot believe the amount of hypocrisry that Kenyan politicians have! Uhuru Kenyatta, Raila Odinga and William Ruto are now crying about Moi helping Nicholas Biwott to take over as Kanu chairman. If you listen to Uhuru, Ruto and Raila, you would think that these 3 are very nice guys who have been mistreated by Moi. They have vowed to fight Moi and Biwott. This is their right. For the record, I have NEVER supported Biwott. In fact, I HATE him for his role in Robert Ouko's murder. I believe he played an ACTIVE role in killing Ouko. For the record, I do NOT support any moves by Kibaki to join forces with Moi and Biwott. However, I am shocked at the hypocrisy of Uhuru, Raila and Ruto. Simply shocked. In 2002 Moi hand-picked Uhuru as Kanu chairman and Raila as Kanu secretary general. When this happened, Uhuru did NOT complain. Raila did not complain. Raila, before Uhuru was chosen, licked Moi's behind with a lot of excitement. He had NO complaints about Moi. In fact, Raila took up his new position (Kanu secretary general) with enthusiasm! He even made fun of Kibaki, Michael Wamalwa, and Charity Ngilu when they continued to meet in hotels in an attempt to forge unity and field ONE presidential candidate against Kanu. Now we see Moi using the same tactics he used in 2002. And we see Uhuru, Raila and Ruto crying like babies. They claim that Moi not supporting ODM-Kenya and backing Biwott is unfair. Ruto, as we all know, was a hired thug for Moi. Why is he now pretending to be very angry at what Moi is doing? When Ruto was a thug for Youth for Kanu '92, didn't he LOVE Moi with all his heart? Raila, as we all know, thought that the 2002 Kanu presidential nomination would be handed to him. Uhuru, as we all know, saw nothing wrong with Moi in 2002 because he (Uhuru) was chosen as the Kanu presidential nominee. Now Uhuru, Raila and Ruto are crying foul because Moi has decided to support Biwott as Kanu chairman. Why should the Kenyan public support Uhuru, Raila and Ruto? Are these 3 not the worst Kenyan political hypocrites we have seen in a long time? We shall always expose the hypocrisy of Kenyan politicians even when they are part of the so-called ODM-Kenya! www.eastandard.net/archives/cl/h … 29/11/2006
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